Austro-Hungarian Uniforms

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Austro-Hungarian Uniforms

Post  Sean on Tue 22 Jun 2010, 7:59 pm

The AH Empire produced some magnificent uniforms.
The two below are a Hungarian senior NCO (Feldwebel) and a Bosnian infantryman.
In parade uniform around the turn of the century.
http://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/12/22/09/10/536_0010.jpg

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Austro-Hungarian Navy

Post  wfrad on Sun 24 Oct 2010, 10:49 am

Here’s a chart for the Austro-Hungarian Navy ranks from around 1880,
I believe the curl and crown became standard on the cuffs around 1910.
Again I have found very few good references of detailed ranks, those that I have found differ on some minor details, so I can only say that this is yet another job half done.
The volunteer service strips, one for every three years, can be seen worn with PO ranks which I'm not too sure about.

I’ve placed it here to try and keep the number of separate posts per country down to a minimum.
What if now there’s quite a few posts in the various sections maybe having a main country heading to place posts into would help?


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Post  ChrisF202 on Sun 24 Oct 2010, 11:15 pm

Hi Will, you are correct about the curl. It was not added until 1908.

The website I designed my chart from also had a star above the cuff stripes before 1908, and a crown after 1908.

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Curl and Star

Post  wfrad on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 7:55 am

Hi Chris,
In the Navel Recognition Book of 1918 the star and crown are shown but without info as to when they were authorised. Unfortunately this is the best English reference that I have found, it still appears to be full of contradictions from other sources on the net.
Also in addition to the crown for Military, the Star for medical, the Official Branches had a gold rosette for officers of Rear Admiral status, nothing for ranks below.
I have kept to the basics simply because, 'a' I'm no expert, and 'b' the situation is confused enough without my input adding to it,
I try to have at least three sources that agree before doing anything, For German insignia that's not a problem, also the Austro-Hungarian land forces are well documented but it appears that the navy doesn't have the same appeal with English speaking nations.
I suppose the same can be said for the Ottoman Empire, mentioned in passing without going into much detail.
What does suprise me is that although there's quite a following on some German speaking sites regarding Austo-Hungarian stuff, there's still a distinct lack of illustrations of uniforms insignia.
Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong direction.
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Post  ChrisF202 on Mon 25 Oct 2010, 12:04 pm

I try to have at least three sources that agree before doing anything
That sounds like a good rule of thumb!

I hear what you mean on finding sources. My hope is that with the rise of the internet along with social networking, and the digitalizing craze will make such hard to find information more accessible to the wider public. Before finding this forum and uniforminsignia.org I knew virtually nobody who shared my interest in uniforms and rank insignia but now I have found an entire community that spans the planet and with it tons and tons of new information that I never would have found. Ive also made many friendships as well. My point is, hang in there and sooner or later someone in this community will find a definite answer.

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Pre WW1 rank insignias

Post  Les-Art on Tue 26 Oct 2010, 6:17 am

Hi Guys,
Is this any good to anyone?

http://i28.servimg.com/u/f28/13/98/25/75/austro12.jpg
It looks like a page from an 'OFFICIAL' manual, but no nothing more about where it comes from.
This is the best quality I can get, I think it is fairly understandable. Just work out what the colours should be.

Regards,
Les

P.S. two more colour ones to come.

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Re: Austro-Hungarian Uniforms

Post  Les-Art on Tue 26 Oct 2010, 6:21 am

Here is another one,

http://i28.servimg.com/u/f28/13/98/25/75/austro10.jpg
If the image is cut of on your computer just click on the link under the illustration and you should get the full thing.
Another one one the way

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Re: Austro-Hungarian Uniforms

Post  Les-Art on Tue 26 Oct 2010, 6:26 am

And the last one.

http://i28.servimg.com/u/f28/13/98/25/75/austro11.jpg
Same as before if you don't get the full image click on the link below.

Hope these are of interest and might help someone to create an accuarte rank structure.

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Les

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Austro-Hungarian

Post  wfrad on Tue 26 Oct 2010, 8:35 am

Some very nice examples of army insignia Les, everything is of use.
Again. land forces of which Almark’s Austro-Hungarian Infantry 1914-1918 by J.S.Lucas is one of the more affordable references that I’ve found. Taken along with Andrew Mollo’s Army Uniforms of WW1 and the two Osprey Men at Arms books on the Austro-Hungarian army of WW1 they make quite a good cross reference. These are certainly not the most comprehensive source books available but I believe that they are among the more affordable.
As you would or should expect in general the better quality illustrations are often found in Austrian/German books.
Thanks for posting them.
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WF

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