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Transjordan Frontier Force uniforms WW2

Post  zebra on Thu 06 Aug 2009, 8:19 pm

"Armed Forces of WW2" -Andrew Mollo has a undated illustration of a TJFF soldier in grey shirt, kd headdress/shorts. Does anyone know if this was worn by all the TJFF or perhaps those on desert/frontier patrol or was the tunic and breeches worn by all? Pat.

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Re: Transjordan Frontier Force uniforms WW2

Post  Sean on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 12:32 pm

The grey-blue shirt of the TJFF was their field dress, as they were considered to be an armed gendarmerie. It could also be worn as ceremonial uniform in the hotter months. A stand collared khaki jacket was usually worn for parades with chains on the shoulders. A red cummerbund was worn around the waist, under the belt. The furcap was usually a parade item with the head cloth used during other duties. Cord breeches and long puttees were worn by mounted men, trousers and lon puttees by others.

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Post  zebra on Fri 07 Aug 2009, 7:22 pm

Sean ,many thanks for replying,but could i just ask did the TJFF wear the 1903 brown leather bandolier when in the field and did the belt have the small ammo pouches? I'm not too sure if this or the 1937 webbing was worn. Pat.

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Post  Sean on Sat 08 Aug 2009, 3:06 am

The 1903 bandolier was worn but not the waist belt pouches. These were more for dismounted members to compensate for no pouches on the back of the bandolier.

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Post  zebra on Sat 08 Aug 2009, 8:40 pm

Thanks again Sean,just one final query diid the officers wear the grey shirt, shorts,cummerbund or have a "Sam Brown " belt? Pat.

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Re: Transjordan Frontier Force uniforms WW2

Post  Sean on Sun 09 Aug 2009, 5:29 am

Certainly did

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Post  zebra on Tue 11 Aug 2009, 7:28 pm

Thanks again for replying Sean, i only ask as "Echoes of the bugle " by Marcel Roubicek mentions the TJFF but not the field uniform also "The Arab Legion by Peter Young is more of a history. Pat.

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Post  Sean on Wed 12 Aug 2009, 5:33 pm

Just reread your previous question. I doubt if British officers wore shorts, not the done thing in the Middle East, as opposed to Asia.

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Post  Animal on Fri 14 Aug 2009, 6:28 am

Sean wrote:Just reread your previous question. I doubt if British officers wore shorts, not the done thing in the Middle East, as opposed to Asia.

I'm sure that I've seen pics of officers in the Middle East wearing shorts. Certainly in North Africa.

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Post  wfrad on Fri 14 Aug 2009, 7:57 pm

I believe that the army order of 35 left it up to the discretion of the officers commanding so they may have being worn but few and far between.
Saying that most pics of officers in shorts are from India.
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Post  Raja on Thu 20 Aug 2009, 7:19 pm

Hello, would the TJFF officers more likely wear kd shirts ? Surely the red cummerbund would be issued to the O.R s only ? Raja.

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The King wears shorts.

Post  wfrad on Sun 23 Aug 2009, 10:41 pm

[quote="Animal"]
Sean wrote:Just reread your previous question. I doubt if British officers wore shorts, not the done thing in the Middle East, as opposed to Asia.


Animal,
A photograph of King George VI wearing shorts while inspecting 2/4th batt. Hampshire Regt. in Italy July '44 is in Rosignoli's Allied Forces of Italy 1943-45, photographs taken from the A. Voller collection.
So if shorts were worn in Italy then they probably would have being worn in the Middle East, at least during the WWII.
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Re: Transjordan Frontier Force uniforms WW2

Post  Sean on Mon 31 Aug 2009, 3:53 pm

My problem is I don't expand on my thoughts.
Shorts were definitely worn by British officers serving in the Middle East, before during and after the war.
However, the officers of 'colonial' units were loath to wear them, must keep up standards.
Breeches were generally worn for the field and general duties. Trousers for in barracks and undress uniform. Shorts offered little protection from the sun and harsh vegetation, and were not the best for predominantly mounted duties as performed by the TJFF.
KD shirts may have been worn, but I believe blue grey was the unit colour for shirts.
The cummerbund was worn by all ranks, as was done in the Indian cavalry. In field order officers may not have burdened themselves with it.

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Post  Raja on Sat 19 Sep 2009, 7:53 pm

Thanks guys for all the info,i didn't realise it would be of much intrest when i posted my query Raja.

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