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Chilean Army c1912

Post  buistR on Mon 06 Jul 2009, 9:08 pm

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Part of another plate from Enciopeida Universal. The Chilean Army came under very strong Imperial German influence following the engagement of a Captain Emil Koerner in 1886 to organise the Escuela Militar in 1886. Koerner was so sucessful in this role that he was appointed Chief of the Chilean General Staff in 1891, a position that he retained until 1910. Thirty-six other German officers joined him as instructers in 1895, Mauser rifles, Krupp artillery and Hotchkiss machine guns became general issue and the uniforms according to Knotel came to almost exactly resemble German ones. The modern Chilean Army retains details such as spiked helmets, Prussian blue tunics and the goose-step parade march which have long vanished in their country of origin.

The figures shown (more to follow) are: 1. General gala; 2. Adjutant infantry officer gala; 3. General Staff officer gala; 4. Infantry officer gala; 6. Infantry officer field; 7. Cavalry (cazadors) officer gala; 8. Cavalry (guias) officer gala; 9. Cavalry (lanceros) officer gala; 11. Cavalry (granaderos) officer gala; 12. Artillery officer gala; 13. Artillery officer service; 14. Artillery officer field.

The khaki uniforms shown as field dress (campana) are a slight mystery. Other sources identify field uniforms as being grey-green and Knotel refers to this colour as being adopted "during the War" (1914-18). The khaki shown in the Spanish plates may be an earlier experimental issue or simply a summer uniform. The manifold advantages of khaki drill were such that a number of Latin American and other armies adopted it for hot weather field or fatigue wear at a time when the dark blue or other coloured uniforms were still being worn for all occasions in colder weather.

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Re: Chilean Army c1912

Post  Sean on Tue 07 Jul 2009, 2:47 am

Brilliant again, thanks Rowin

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Post  buistR on Sat 11 Jul 2009, 6:46 pm

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More from the Chilean Army c1912 plate: 16: Engineers officer undress; 17 Engineers officer field dress; 18 Infantry soldier full dress; 19 Cavalry soldier summer whites; 21 Engineers soldier full dress (according to other sources facings should all be light blue and not just cuffs); 22 Train (transport) soldier full dress; 23 Administration soldier full dress (grey facings should be darker); 24 Medical corps soldier full dress.

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-and finally from the trimmed verge: 5 Infantry senior officer gala; 15 Cavalry (Hussars) soldier gala; Engineers officer gala; 29 Artillery soldier full dress; 25 Military cadet full dress with greatcoat.

Interesting to note that only officers and officer cadets have spiked helmets in full or gala dress - other ranks make do with peaked caps. Also that while the Chilean cavalry has the regimental titles of cazadores, guides, lancers, grenadiers and hussars, the actual uniforms worn by all are identical light blue tunics and black breechs. Only the collar badges distinguish one type of cavalry from another

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The navy

Post  wfrad on Tue 21 Jul 2009, 12:06 am

Rowan
Rather than add a new post I've just added this to along with your illustrations of the army.
Taken from a illustration on the NYPL site and with a little poetic licence I believe it's correct for the period.
If it's not, please feel free to enlighten me as my Spanish translation of some of the ranks may be off target.

The rank of Piloto/Pilot is supposed to be twisted braid.

Guarda Marina seems to vary depending on the period or translation going from cadet to probation lieutenant, for this period I stumped for Aspirant as the nearest English equivalent which would be Midshipman for the grade two, the grade one I would say has no equivalent but maybe on board ship or senior midshipman, Later ranks have the Guarda Marina as Probation Lieutenant,

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Chilean uniforms 1913

Post  buistR on Sat 16 Apr 2011, 4:21 pm

Further to the above, a document from the Chilean Bibliotecha Nacional may be of interest. It is a multipage article from a 1913 illustrated magazine "Pacifico", detailing the newly introduced uniforms of the Chilean Army. These mark a change move from the Prussian style coloured uniforms uniforms of 1912 to a universal grey (khaki for summer) dress intended for field and ordinary wear as well as parade (with the addition of coloured facings, plumes, epaulettes etc). Only generals, the Presidential Escort and Presidential ADCs retain the previous dark blue uniforms. Some of the features shown in the accompanying coloured plates and illustrations do not appear to have lasted for very long (i.e the French artillery style crested helmets) but some modern Chilean Army units still have grey uniforms for full dress.

See:

http://www.memoriachilena.cl/temas/documento_detalle.asp?id=MC0051516

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Bibliotecha Nacional

Post  wfrad on Sun 17 Apr 2011, 8:07 am

Thanks,
A touch of the Alpini in there also.

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Post  mconrad on Sun 17 Apr 2011, 9:34 am

Thanks

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Y tambien...

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Chilean Army

Post  wfrad on Thu 14 Jul 2011, 11:08 am

I've had these for some time in pdf format from the Pacifico Magazine, without doing much about them due to the image quality being poor.
I afraid that I don't remember the source so I'm unable to credit it to anyone.
Ranks for the Chilean army for what appears to be the 1920/30s,
Roughly, pre 1900 French style cuff rings and post 1900 shoulder straps and German style cuffs with Austrian type knots and cuff rings depending on type of regiment.
It appears that from the 1880 up until the early 1900's they just couldn't decide which way to jump but mixed and matched, finally taking on the German style.
Image 2 shows stars above the cuff, for the period I'm not sure about, I thought the cuff stars came later.
Since my Spanish is 0%, the text may have confused me so any further details feel free, also there's no date visible on the magazine which would have helped.

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